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Saturday, August 18, 2007

[wvns] Unrepentant Genocidaires & Armenians

Jews, the Armenian Genocide and the Nakba (Holoexaleipsis)
by Joachim Martillo (ThorsProvoni @ aol.com)


Philip Weiss writes the following in The Armenian Horror, Cte'd; Is
Foxman Finished?

The Globe reports that the ADL fired its regional director in New
England over his statements calling for an acknowledgment of Armenian
genocide. And Foxman states in his letter "explaining" the decision
that the security of Israel is paramount.

Ergo, we lie and cover up another people's suffering. What was I
saying about free speech in the Jewish community? What was I saying
about the demands the Jewish state has made on Jewish identity?

Yet acknowledgement among Jews that the Ottoman Empire in its waning
days committed genocide against Armenians is simply not enough! Many
Jews already resist Turkish and Zionist attempts to suppress
discussion of the Armenian genocide. Jews (especially ethnic
Ashkenazim) must fully admit to themselves and to non-Jews

1.
that revolutionary communist Ashkenazim were up to their
eyeballs in mass murder, ethnic cleansing and genocide from the
October Revolution right through the 1940s,
2.
that Zionist Ashkenazim and German Jews planned the murder of
Arab Palestine in the latter half of the 19th century,
3.
that murderous Ashkenazi and German Jewish invaders carried out
80% of the Zionist genocide program in the middle of the 20th century and
4.
that Jews of all ethnicities are either carrying out genocide
right before our eyes in Stolen and Occupied Palestine or are
manipulating the US government into supporting ongoing Zionist crimes
against humanity.*

Below is an essay that I circulated April 20, 2006. It discusses
Jewish involvement in a local Boston commemoration of the Armenian
genocide.

Many ethnic Ashkenazim and many Turks practice genocide denial, but
the Turkish government executed the Ottoman officials that planned and
executed the genocide of Armenians while Zionist genocidaires founded
the State of Israel and still lead that state to this day.

The reluctance of the Turkish government to call the mass murder of
Armenians genocide is probably a result of the popular equation of the
crime of genocide with the Hollywood Holocaust that has very little
resemblance to the actual historical mass murders a Jews that took
place during WW2. See Nakba education vs Holocaust disinformation for
Americans to obtain more information about Zionist misrepresentations.

(*) The loyal ethnic Persian Jewish population that has refused to
leave its Iranian homeland and that has categorically condemned
Zionism as evil and blasphemous is an exception that continues to
embarrass American and Israeli Zionists with the truth.

kNOw Genocide, Armenians and the Mass Murder of the Jews

According to the announcement appended below April 21, 2006 will mark
the public inception of "kNOw GENOCIDE, a new multi-ethnic,
non-partisan coalition formed to combat the ongoing denial of known
cases of genocide, such as the Darfur, Cambodian, Jewish, Rwandan,
and the Armenian genocides." In point of fact, Holocaust denial is a
thoroughly insignificant phenomenon in the USA and is exaggerated by
the Ashkenazi American community as a way of deflecting criticism of
the behavior of the State of Israel. The announcement claims to be
"grounded in the understanding that denial of genocide is the final
stage of that crime. For the sake of human rights as well as the
historical truth it will counter and expose attempts at genocide denial."

The claim is nonsense. Denial of genocide is not the final stage of
crimes like the mass murder of Jews during WW2. The final stage of
such crimes comes when the victims of mass murder use their past
sufferings to justify their depredations against innocent
third-parties. Holocaust denial is partially a reaction to such
misuse of the history of the mass murder of Jews during WW2.
Holocaust denial is not genocide denial. Holocaust denial exists
because there are serious problems with the standard historiography of
the mass murder of Jews during WW2. Holocaust revisionists generally
have their own agenda and often do not have the necessary skills to
present a more accurate analysis of the destruction of European Jewish
communities, but in their willingness to challenge the standard
Holocaust mythology they do in fact do a service.

Real genocide denial is the cover up of the historical and ongoing
genocide against the native Palestinian population. Racist Eastern
European Ashkenazim and German Jews planned the physical destruction
of the native Palestinian population since the end of the 19th century
and have been carrying out this program since 1947. The murder of
Arab Palestine planned in the 19th century, carried out mostly in the
20th century and still ongoing in the 21st century is without doubt
the defining crime of genocide of three centuries.

Here is article 2 from the Convention on Genocide
(http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html)

Article 2

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following
acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a
national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life
calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Note that items a, b, and c clearly have applied to Palestine since
racist Eastern European Ashkenazim began to invade Palestine for the
purpose of stealing it from the native population at the end of the
19th century. The Zionist colonizer population is comprised of
murderous genocidal thieves and interlopers under the international
definition of genocide and under the original Lemkin formulation of
the definition of genocide.

No one can take seriously any group that claims to be anti-genocide
unless that group takes a clear and forthright stand

1. against the criminal Zionist colonizer population,
2. against racist ethnic Ashkenazi Americans that have manipulated
the USA into supporting the criminal genocidal state of Israel and
3. against the murderous US Middle Eastern policy that supports
Zionism and the state of Israel.

We have to start talking rationally about the mass murders of European
Jews during WW2.

German Nazism was a reaction to Soviet Bolshevism, which had already
systematically wiped out 7-12 million Soviet citizens by the time of
the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Now that we can look act
Soviet archives we find that the accusations of the Central and
European right wings during the 20s and 30s of Judeo-Bolshevik
terrorism were completely true. As we examine higher levels of the
Soviet hierarchy, we find that the leading party members belong ever
more frequently to the Eastern European Ashkenazi ethnic group and
that the murderous policies of the Soviet Union (e.g.,
collectivization, dekulakization, alienization, mass starvation, etc.)
were for the most part formulated, developed and carried out by ethnic
Ashkenazim. Moreover, when we look at the early history of the Soviet
Union,

1. the quick consolidation of the Soviet Union because of the
efforts of ethnic Ashkenazim within and without the Soviet Union
2. the military threat to Poland from the ethnic Ashkenazi-led Red
Army defeated by Pilsudski in the Miracle of Warsaw and
3. the Communist coup in Bavaria (9 of the 12 leaders were German
Jews and ethnic Ashkenazim)

gave Central and Eastern European populations more than enough reason
to hate and fear ethnic Ashkenazim of Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union.

Until the invasion of the Soviet Union, the German Nazi policy with
regard to German Jews and ethnic Ashkenazi was ethnic cleansing and
relatively speaking this policy was a good deal less brutal than
current Zionist policy with regard to the native population of
Palestine. In Soviet territory, the German army tended not to
distinguish between Bolsheviks and ethnic Ashkenazim. From what we
know now, this policy was not unreasonable to the first approximation,
but mass murders in Soviet territories start not with German Nazi
policy but with the collective revenge of liberated Soviet
nationalities against ethnic Ashkenazim, who constituted the one
ethnic group almost totally identified with the Soviet government.

Note that there is some dispute among non-Revisionist historians about
the number of European Jews killed in the mass murders that start with
the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Raul Hilberg gives a figure
of 5.1 million while Wiesel essentially pulls the figure of 6 million
out of his hat. Because new data availabe since the fall of the
Soviet Union suggests that more Jews in Eastern European probably
vanished among the non-Jewish population than previously believed even
Raul Hilberg's figure may be high. In general the depiction of the
mass murders in terms of deportations of Western European Jews (like
Anne Frank) to death camps is misleading. Relatively speaking very
few Jews lived in Western Europe. Zionist historians and racist
Ethnic Ashkenazi writers of the pogrom and persecution school of
Jewish history focus on the Western European mass murders

1. in part because access to Eastern European and Soviet data has
generally been restricted, but
2. mostly because serious study of the Eastern European mass
murders would invariably lead to discussion of the involvement of
large segments of the Eastern European ethnic Ashkenazi population in
heinous crimes against humanity because of their role in Eastern
European radical activities.

Contextualizing Eastern European ethnic Ashkenazi political activities
makes it much harder to portray European Jews as pure victims, who
were specifically targeted by the German Nazis and who needed to
receive Palestine as compensation. In fact, it is not even improbable
that more than half of the Jews subjected to mass murders during WW2
were killed not under any sort of program created by the German Nazis,
but were the victim of collective revenge killings by "liberated"
Soviet nationalities or by non-Soviet Eastern European populations,
who understandably viewed local ethnic Ashkenazi populations as
culpable in Soviet atrocities and mass murder.

As the German Nazis war effort went sour and as the German army had to
retreat, the German government began systematically to deport and to
kill the non-Soviet Eastern European ethnic Ashkenazi populations to
the death camps, but this policy was not an irrational exercise in the
hatred of Jews. Soviet ethnic Ashkenazim were the quintessential
Soviet class. Ethnic Ashkenazim outside of the Soviet Union were the
most loyal allies of the Soviet Union (they had aided the
consolidation of the Soviet Union during the 20s and constituted the
vast majority of pro-Soviet subversives in the West, including the
USA, throughout the 20s, 30s and 40s). Eastern European Ashkenazim
managed large retail and distribution networks. As the German army
withdrew, the German government wanted to make sure that Eastern
European ethnic Ashkenazi expertise was not used by the Soviet Union
against Germany. Killing the Eastern European ethnic Ashkenazi
population was for Nazi Germany simply an extension of scorched Earth
policies. In Poland the Germany Nazis also mass murdered non-Jews
that had similar logistic expertise and for the most part wiped out
the Polish Tatar population because of its leading role in the
military and in resistance to Germany. The German government expected
to hold the Soviet Union at the Eastern border to Germany and wanted
to make sure that Soviet conquered territories in Eastern Europe were
a tactical liability and not a tactical asset to the Soviet army.

The German government's calculation failed, but the mass murder of the
ethnic Ashkenazi managerial population, which would have been the most
pro-Soviet population within the Iron Curtain countries, guaranteed
that the Soviet Union received little benefit from the Soviet
dominated territories of the Eastern block. Without the Nazi mass
murder of the Jewish population of Eastern Europe and "liberated"
Soviet territories, the Soviet Union would have been much stronger
during the 40s-80s and would probably be threatening the 21st century
with complete Soviet domination.

In short, we have to stop talking about the mass murder of Jews or
ethnic Ashkenazim during WW2 as the most heinous crime in the history
of humanity. We need to recognize that because of historical
processes since the collapse of the Polish Republic after 1648, ethnic
Ashkenazim became a toxic minority hated for completely understandable
reasons throughout Eastern Europe and Russian territories. Because
ethnic Ashkenazim have tended to have more financial resources and
education, they have managed to do a tremendous amount of damage

1. in Eastern Europe (including the overthrow of the Czarist Empire
and the consolidation of the Soviet Union with concomitant mass murders)
2. in Palestine (including the murder of Arab Palestine and
depredations on surrounding Arab populations)
3. in the UK by subverting the British Empire to Zionist goals in
Palestine -- an action which contributed immensely to the demise of
the British empire and
4. in the USA by subverting the USA during to 20s, 30s and 40s to
the direct benefit of the Soviet Union and to the indirect benefit to
ethnic Ashkenazi racist tribalism and then during 70s, 80s, 90s and
00s in subverting the US government to support the State of Israel to
the direct benefit of ethnic Ashkenazi racist tribalism and to the
obvious detriment of US interests.

Anti-Genocide coalitions like kNOw GENOCIDE are part of the strategy
that racist Ashkenazi Americans use to enmesh non-Ashkenazim in
service to Zionist/ethnic Ashkenazi racist tribalism and subversion.
Patriotic Americans need to discuss how the Holocaust cult and the
Zionist dominated discourse over genocide in the USA is harming
America. Any commemoration of genocide that does not include a strict
condemnation

1. of Zionism-inspired genocidal US Middle policy,
2. of subversive racist ethnic Ashkenazi tribalism and
3. of the murderous Zionist State

is both completely hypocritical and fundamentally anti-American
because it supports the program of racist ethnic Ashkenazi Americans
to sacrifice American lives and wealth to maintain the domination of
Palestine by a murderous criminal genocidal population of racist
Zionist thieves and interlopers. No one genuinely concerned about
genocide can have any legitimate connection to ethnic Ashkenazim that
do not reject and condemn Zionism and the State of Israel categorically.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Harout H.
Semerdjian

April 13, 2006
617-489-1597


Rep. Rachel Kaprielian

617-722-2400

BOSTON, MA This year the commemoration of the Armenian Genocide in the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts has taken an extraordinary turn given
the genocide lawsuit in our state. April 21, 2006 will mark two
important events at the Massachusetts State House. The first is the
State House Armenian Genocide Commemoration Ceremony organized by
Representatives Rachel Kaprielian and Peter Koutoujian and Senator
Steven Tolman. It will take place at 11:00 am in the Chamber of the
House of Representatives and will be followed by an informal reception
in the Great Hall of the State House.

The second event will take place outside the State House on Beacon
Street at 12:45 pm immediately following the Commemoration Ceremony.
It will mark the public inception of KNOW GENOCIDE, a new
multi-ethnic, non-partisan coalition formed to combat the ongoing
denial of known cases of genocide, such as the Darfur, Cambodian,
Jewish, Rwandan, and the Armenian genocides. The coalition is
grounded in the understanding that denial of genocide is the final
stage of that crime. For the sake of human rights as well as the
historical truth it will counter and expose attempts at genocide denial.

Both events at the State House will be marked with the participation
of Dr. Taner Akcam, the first Turkish scholar to publicly acknowledge
and discuss the Armenian Genocide. Despite facing great challenges,
Dr. Akcam has worked for many years in creating a positive and
successful dialogue between Armenians and Turks. His work regarding
the Armenian Genocide is hopefully a beginning for eventual acceptance
by Turkey of this great crime against humanity.

It is our sincere hope that this event receives a good turnout of
Armenians united against denial. Please join us at this historic
juncture in our history, as we join with this leading Turkish scholar
to acknowledge the truth and remember our martyrs.

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1 comment:

DRL1 said...

I am surprised that in your paranoid diatribe against Jews and their supposed world conspiracy that you left out the accusation of ritual murder. I certainly think you have a skewed and bigoted view of the world and certainly could use some intensive psychotherapy